New Honda Civic and new Vauxhall Astra vs Seat Leon This trio of family hatchbacks each takes a different approach to maximising efficiency. Let's see which one is the best choice by
Administrator FCX Clarity Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10617 Ma rog... TFSI-ul are turbo :P nu e chiar canci... dar totusi scorul e Civic 100%. Oare n-am facut eu bine poll-ul? :lol: '08 Civic 5D 1,8 Sport Champagne Silver: Vicky sigpic Comment Senior Member ASIMO Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2579 pai daca problema e la sotie (adica sa o convingi pe ea), solutia e extrem de usoara: daca nu le-a pipait pe niciuna din ele (vb de masini), du-o la dealer si urc-o in ele. dar mai intai la honda, ca sa nu faceti un drum degeaba... :twisted: ce vreau sa spun, civicul are un efect "ciudat" asupra femeilor/sotiilor...mai stiu cazuri... :wink: nu te pune cu prostul ca are mintea odihnita (ignorance is bliss)... Comment Super Moderator FCX Clarity Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 11122 Chestia cu reglajul lombar al scaunului mi se pare o mare frectie. Am avut asta ( reglaj lombar ) pe vreo 5 masini inainte sa am Honda ( am avut Ford, Skoda 2 buc, Renault, Leon ) si nu ii duc dorul. Este un minus la capitolul "dotari" dar Honda Civic are scaune foarte comode. Leon-ul nou nu mi-a placut in interior ( a fost o idee sa-mi iau ) si are o directie foarte greoie ( tragi cam tare de volan ). Singurul plus este sonorizarea standard care cred ca este cea mai buna din gama. Dar 100% Civic! I'm not anti-social. I'm anti-idiot. My cars: '09 Honda Accord Tourer A/T, Executive, Cobalt Blue Pearl--all season daily car '00 S2000, Silverstone Metallic - my new daily sunny day drive '96 CRX Del Sol 1,6 SIR, Custom Metallic Green - sunny&warm days car '78 Accord SJ 1,6 Yellow - historical car EX-'11 CR-V 2,2 I-DTEC A/T Executive, Urban Titanium Metallic EX -'09 Accord Sedan 2,4 M/T Executive, Cobalt Blue Pearl EX-''00 HR-V 1,6, Custom Matt BlacK - Utility car EX-'15 Civic 5D 1,8 Sport M/T Briliant Sporty Blue Metallic EX- '95 Civic Eg 1,8 White - race car EX-'08 Civic 5d 1,8 Sport M/T Alabaster Silver - Comment Administrator FCX Clarity Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10617 Cine a votat cu Leonul? Care e tradatorul? Macar daca argumenta de ce Leon :roll: '08 Civic 5D 1,8 Sport Champagne Silver: Vicky sigpic Comment Super Moderator FCX Clarity Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 11122 Pai cred ca votat Leonul pt ca e democratie :rock: I'm not anti-social. I'm anti-idiot. My cars: '09 Honda Accord Tourer A/T, Executive, Cobalt Blue Pearl--all season daily car '00 S2000, Silverstone Metallic - my new daily sunny day drive '96 CRX Del Sol 1,6 SIR, Custom Metallic Green - sunny&warm days car '78 Accord SJ 1,6 Yellow - historical car EX-'11 CR-V 2,2 I-DTEC A/T Executive, Urban Titanium Metallic EX -'09 Accord Sedan 2,4 M/T Executive, Cobalt Blue Pearl EX-''00 HR-V 1,6, Custom Matt BlacK - Utility car EX-'15 Civic 5D 1,8 Sport M/T Briliant Sporty Blue Metallic EX- '95 Civic Eg 1,8 White - race car EX-'08 Civic 5d 1,8 Sport M/T Alabaster Silver - Comment Senior Member ASIMO Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2579 Originally posted by KMR Chestia cu reglajul lombar al scaunului mi se pare o mare frectie. Am avut asta ( reglaj lombar ) pe vreo 5 masini inainte sa am Honda ( am avut Ford, Skoda 2 buc, Renault, Leon ) si nu ii duc dorul. Este un minus la capitolul "dotari" dar Honda Civic are scaune foarte comode. Leon-ul nou nu mi-a placut in interior ( a fost o idee sa-mi iau ) si are o directie foarte greoie ( tragi cam tare de volan ). Singurul plus este sonorizarea standard care cred ca este cea mai buna din gama. Dar 100% Civic! OFF: nici la civic nu mi se pare foarte moale volanul...poate doar in comparatie cu motorul oprit... m-am urcat de curand intr-o octavia 2, diesel si mi s-a parut volanul mult mai usor, pe loc fac comparatia...! sa fie oare numai de la diferenta de cauciucuri...?!? nu te pune cu prostul ca are mintea odihnita (ignorance is bliss)... Comment Administrator FCX Clarity Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10617 Originally posted by KMR Pai cred ca votat Leonul pt ca e democratie :rock: De ce vrei independenta KMR? Nu ne-am purtat noi frumos cu tine? :lol: Acum serios vorbind... zi-nu si noua niste motive ca sa stie si Cata ce vezi la Leon... motive domnule. Argumente tehnice :lol: '08 Civic 5D 1,8 Sport Champagne Silver: Vicky sigpic Comment Super Moderator FCX Clarity Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 11122 Frate, eu nu am cum sa votez Leon. Am avut ( generatia anterioara ), m-am gandit si mi-am luat CIVIC. Nu sunt eu acela :butthead: Evident ca v-ati purtat frumos =D> I'm not anti-social. I'm anti-idiot. My cars: '09 Honda Accord Tourer A/T, Executive, Cobalt Blue Pearl--all season daily car '00 S2000, Silverstone Metallic - my new daily sunny day drive '96 CRX Del Sol 1,6 SIR, Custom Metallic Green - sunny&warm days car '78 Accord SJ 1,6 Yellow - historical car EX-'11 CR-V 2,2 I-DTEC A/T Executive, Urban Titanium Metallic EX -'09 Accord Sedan 2,4 M/T Executive, Cobalt Blue Pearl EX-''00 HR-V 1,6, Custom Matt BlacK - Utility car EX-'15 Civic 5D 1,8 Sport M/T Briliant Sporty Blue Metallic EX- '95 Civic Eg 1,8 White - race car EX-'08 Civic 5d 1,8 Sport M/T Alabaster Silver - Comment Super Moderator FCX Clarity Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 11122 "toto" : Leon-ul inca mai este in companie. crede-ma ca este o diferenta enorma . Cea mai usoara directie am avut-o pe Renault megane. I'm not anti-social. I'm anti-idiot. My cars: '09 Honda Accord Tourer A/T, Executive, Cobalt Blue Pearl--all season daily car '00 S2000, Silverstone Metallic - my new daily sunny day drive '96 CRX Del Sol 1,6 SIR, Custom Metallic Green - sunny&warm days car '78 Accord SJ 1,6 Yellow - historical car EX-'11 CR-V 2,2 I-DTEC A/T Executive, Urban Titanium Metallic EX -'09 Accord Sedan 2,4 M/T Executive, Cobalt Blue Pearl EX-''00 HR-V 1,6, Custom Matt BlacK - Utility car EX-'15 Civic 5D 1,8 Sport M/T Briliant Sporty Blue Metallic EX- '95 Civic Eg 1,8 White - race car EX-'08 Civic 5d 1,8 Sport M/T Alabaster Silver - Comment Administrator FCX Clarity Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10617 Scuze KMR... citisem "am votat"... trebuia pus "a votat" :lol: '08 Civic 5D 1,8 Sport Champagne Silver: Vicky sigpic Comment Super Moderator FCX Clarity Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 11122 Imi era foame si am "mancat " un a [-o< Adevarul este ca nu este nimic in neregula sa ai alta parere dar ar trebui sustinuta de argumente. I'm not anti-social. I'm anti-idiot. My cars: '09 Honda Accord Tourer A/T, Executive, Cobalt Blue Pearl--all season daily car '00 S2000, Silverstone Metallic - my new daily sunny day drive '96 CRX Del Sol 1,6 SIR, Custom Metallic Green - sunny&warm days car '78 Accord SJ 1,6 Yellow - historical car EX-'11 CR-V 2,2 I-DTEC A/T Executive, Urban Titanium Metallic EX -'09 Accord Sedan 2,4 M/T Executive, Cobalt Blue Pearl EX-''00 HR-V 1,6, Custom Matt BlacK - Utility car EX-'15 Civic 5D 1,8 Sport M/T Briliant Sporty Blue Metallic EX- '95 Civic Eg 1,8 White - race car EX-'08 Civic 5d 1,8 Sport M/T Alabaster Silver - Comment Senior Member ASIMO Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2550 inainte de cumpara masina, era pe lista si un leon....insa nu a avut nici o sansa...m-am suit in amandoua...si verdictul se stie ! :wink: recunosc...nu am testat un TFSI '18 BMW X1 18xd '15 BMW i3 range extender ex:'12 Honda Civic A/T / '10 Honda CR-Z GT/ '09 Infiniti EX 37/ '07 Mini Cooper S Cabrio / '07 Lexus IS220 / '04 Ford StreetKa / '07 Honda Civic 5D / '06 Citroen C4 Coupe Comment Senior Member PGM-FI Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 258 Originally posted by ticker Ma rog... TFSI-ul are turbo :P nu e chiar canci... dar totusi scorul e Civic 100%. Oare n-am facut eu bine poll-ul? :lol: dpdv putere/consum/fiabilitate nu stiu cat de bine da peste cel de la honda, la asta ma refeream :wink: *Cata dute nene cu prietena la honda,puneo putin la volan sa vezi cum incepe sa toarca de placere :wink: (fata nu masina ) 07' Civic Type-s Nighthawk Black Pearl ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment Senior Member ASIMO Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2786 Pacat de Leon ca grupul Wag a considerat ca daca arata fain la exterior nu conteaza interiorul. Au gresit rau de tot .. :? .... Comment omu cu warnu' FCX Clarity Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6937 La Megane mi se pare prea usoara directia aia, mie nu-mi place. Hai ma, cine a votat Leon sa spuna si de ce. Ex: Civic Executive NHB 2007/ Del Sol ESI/ Del Sol VTi 2 roti Comment HONDA CIVIC 1.6 TURBO vs SEAT LEON SPORTSTOURER 2.0 DNU 221KW 1/4 mile drag race, top speed and acceleration on the drag strip, enjoy the drag racing! If you Skip to ContentSkip to FooterHot new Honda Civic Type R goes head-to-head with Ford Focus RS and SEAT Leon SC Cupra 300It’s decision time. So which of these three very hot hatches is our clear winner?We could tease out the winner of the test, but there’d be no point because in he final reckoning the Honda walks it. No matter which way you cut it, the Civic comes out on top thanks to its staggering breadth of abilities. It’s no exaggeration to say that the Type R redefines what’s possible for a hot hatch – either front or four-wheel drive. ‘It bristles with capability, seriousness, competency, aggression’, enthuses Towler. ‘It successfully melds the outrageous performance people expected with old fashioned, but extremely relevant, qualities of interaction. It feels like a special car, honed for the task by a team on top of their game.’The fact it was fastest around the track, is the most spacious and practical day-to-day and won’t cost the earth to run is the icing on top of the Honda’s hard earned victory cake. We even got used to the between the Ford and SEAT was trickier, because despite having very different takes on the hot hatch formula, they’re both desirable propositions. Yet when the shouting subsided, it was the Focus that emerged just ahead. Its hardcore ride, compromised driving position and wide boy image are demerits, but when you start to push on, the RS’s ability to engage and entertain is unquestioned, plus the novelty of a hot hatch that handles with a rear-drive swagger never really wears off. Towler again, ‘The Ford seems weighed down by expectation and marketing involvement, but get it on a challenging road and its qualities really shine through. It's one of those cars where you can throw any surface, camber or bump at it at very high speed and know that the chassis will respond.’So that leaves the SEAT holding the wooden spoon. The Spanish flyer used to be one of our favourites, but the pace of change in this class has left the Leon languishing. That’s not to say the Cupra doesn’t have its charms. We’re huge fans of its lightweight construction and ferocious performance, plus when you’re in the mood it’s a genuinely exciting machine, but push it as hard as the other two and it quickly that’s not all. ‘I can’t understand why it looks so ordinary,’ muses Ingram. ‘A more adventurous bodykit would help it stand out, while inside it needs a set of decent seats at the very least.’ Perhaps more pressingly, SEAT needs to launch a Sub8 pack for this latest 300 version, because we’re convinced that this would address some of the Leon’s weaknesses. Even so, it’s unlikely even an upgraded Cupra could topple the remarkable Honda. In fact, it’s going to take something spectacular to knock the Type R of its top spot. Over to you, this reviewMost Popular992 Porsche 911 GT3 RS set for August 17 revealSpy shots992 Porsche 911 GT3 RS set for August 17 revealAfter months of test mule sightings and teasers, Porsche has finally announced a reveal date for its most focused GT3 RS yet 26 Jul 2022New versus old: 930 Porsche 911 Turbo vs 992 Porsche 911 Turbo SFeaturesNew versus old: 930 Porsche 911 Turbo vs 992 Porsche 911 Turbo SNearly 50 years split these two sports cars, but the lineage of a Porsche 911 Turbo is undeniable – and there's good reason for it22 Jul 2022Range Rover 2022 review – new generation icon sits in a class of its ownReviewsRange Rover 2022 review – new generation icon sits in a class of its ownDoubling down on a Range Rover’s best bits, while polishing some of its worst – the all-new model is everything you expected, and hoped, it would be22 Jul 2022Skip to HeaderSkip to Content honda - civic_type_r (fd2) Protocols available for each Manufacturer/Car model (September 24th 2019) Proprietary CAN protocols ALSO accessible through the OBDII plug Nie słuchaj tych wszystkich ludzi bo onic co najwyżej widzieli i jedno i drugie auto ale na okładce auto świata. A założę się, że wiekszość z tych ludzi nie ma nawet prawa jedno i drugie auto i sam oceń które jest lepsze. Taki temat to jak wyższość Świą Wielkanocnych nad Bożego narodzenia... Do tej pory nawet jedenej obiektywnej wypowiedzi nie "Leon ma niby beznadziejne silniki". Sprostujmy. W leonie są dostępne silniki benyznowe: - 85KM - zbyt słaby do tego auta ale dobrze znosi GAZ,1,6 - 102 KM - rozsądny wybór, dobry stosunek osiągów do spalania i dobrze znosi zasilanie TSI 125KM - podobno wyciągają się łańcuchy rozrządu, ale na ilość sprzedanych silników wcale nie było aż tak dużo usterek (nie zapomnijmy że silniki napedzaja Seata, VW, Skode i Audi)1,8 TSI 160KM jedna z lepszych jednostek napedowcyh w Leonie. Nie ma nadmiernie problemu z łańcuchem ogólnie bardzo dobre osiągi plus spalanie okolo 10 litrów w TSI 211/240KM - silniki bardzo wytrzymałe i o ile nie zajeżdzone to bezproblemowe. I śmiesznę są wypowiedzi typu nigdy nie miał tyle km... większość wypluwa albo okolice 240 km albo więcej. Argumenty? Wejdź na stronę streetracing i popatrz na wydruki z ty potwierdz, że nie wypluwają nawet 200km hę? Oraz silniki diesla:1,9 TDI 105 KM - w rzeczywistości rzadko kiedy mają 105 KM bo w większości ich moc oscyluje w okolicach 108-120km. Silnik wszystkim znany i lubiany. Niestety w większości przypadków ma na karku kilkaset tysięcy km przebiegu. Trzeba się postarać o dobry egzemplarz. Jesli trafisz na taki bierz w TDI 140KM sprzed 2008 roku na PD - jedni sobie chwalą jeżdzą po 300-400 tysiecy km i nic się nie dzieje innym padają po 50 000 km. 2,0 TDI 140/170 po 2008 roku na CR - bezproblemowe silniki, masz kase bierz w TDI 105km - wariant którym się jezdzi subiektywnie zdecydowanie gorzej niz 1,9 TDI. Inna charakterystyka silnika. Teraz CIVIC:Silniki benzynowe:1,4 - zbyt słaby1,8 ok 140 KM - dobry silnik, bierze olej i musisz lubić kręcenie obrotów. Do 4000 obr nie jedzie ze względu na charakterystykę silnika. Warty 201 KM - bezkompromisowy, wiertarka ale także musisz lubic krecenie silnika do 7000-8000 obr min. Do 5000 malo co sie 140km - Dobry, sprawdzony silnik. Zadbany brac. Psuja się duperele jak w kazdym biegow:W leonie malo kto narzeka na skrzynie, chodzi Civicku ludzie narzekaja na haczace skrzynie : z tylu zawieszenie wielowahaczowe, prowadzenie auta fantastyczne. Wielowahacz docenisz na szybkich zakretach zwlaszcza kiedy droga tak jak w polsce jest niezbyt wielu testach zawieszenie i prowadzenie leona II jest porownywane do Focusa. A to wiele jzu mowie za Z tylu przestarzala belka skretna. Podobne rozwiazanie jak w Citroenie BX z 1990 roku...Czemu to zastosowali nie jak kto lubi, tutaj to juz wybor wg gustu. Leon to tradycyjna deska rozdzielcza, od razu zlapiesz co gdzie projektant chyba mial adhd lub projektowalo to kilka projektantow i kazdy wstawial swoje patenty gdzie mu pasowalo...materialy mysle ze sportowa linia klinu, auto nie dla szaraków którzy na wszystko narzekają. civic design także z zacięciem sportowym lecz ten przeszklony przód wielu osobom nie odpowiada...Wnętrze: Podobna ilosc miejsca, ale bagaznik wyraznie wiekszy ma porownac cos do VW. Ludzie mówią że to wada i obciach. Ale nie ma co słuchać tych dzieci VW to tanie części, możesz je kupić nawet w kwiaciarni...Serwis: każdy zna technike vw bo tych aut jezdza milniony więc jest dobrze znana i także np w hondzie u znajomego, sprowadzali przez 3 tygodnie z japonii łożysko do koła...Przemyśl i nikogo nie słuchaj, dobrze ci LEONA bo na nim sie nie zawiedziesz. Ma fenomenalne wlasciwosci jezdne. Civic tez ma dobre ale nie az tak dobre jak Loen II. Uklad kierowniczy. Przejedz sie i tym i tym. Leon ma najlepszy uklad kierowniczy w klasie. Potwierdzone wieloma ma mniej silników ale wszystkie są godne polecenia. ma wiekszy bagaznik. Za diesla zaplacisz wieksze OC niz za 2,0 TDI VW.
The 2022 Honda Civic Si also has a 1.5-liter turbocharged inline-four, but features a much different power band. The resulting output is 200 horsepower and 192 pound-feet of torque. As always, the
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It’s also commendably close to the numbers you’d expect from a similarly sized vehicle with a turbo-diesel engine. The more conventional 2.0-litre A3 variant, meanwhile, boasts a still-credible 6.7 litres per 100km for the same test. To counter its greater thirst, Audi has fitted a slightly bigger, 55-litre fuel tank. Na Autohledu porovnáváme Honda CIVIC 1.0 VTEC TURBO 2017 vs SEAT Leon 1.0 TSI 2020 včetně všech parametrů, motorizací a ceny. Porovnejte auta na jednom místě! jnvmc. 99 342 331 134 26 205 279 381 409

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